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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: CRAZY PC BUILD PROJECT Reply with quote

I'm going to buy all of the components individually and build my next PC. Hopefully I will have all of the parts within the next six months.

I've begun to do some basic research, basically to learn all that I can about the newest features and technology. What I need from you guys is simple suggestions and info on manufacturers of motherboards.

I want to select the best motherboard I can possibly buy. With that said, I want to clarify that I'm not just looking for the newest motherboard on the market. I want something that I will be able to upgrade, it is for an widescreen HD TV display, DX10 if possible, high emphasis on recording and surround sound. No Macs.

I'm looking for something with dual core support, the fastest possible front side bus, 10,000RPM HD support, at least 4GB of RAM, and dual graphics on fast PCI E connections. I want to build the most solid computer I can with the current technology so that it will last me more than a few years. I'm prepaired to invest a lot of money in the computer over an extended period of time so that I can build the best possible PC with the most current technology.

Give me some inspiration. I can sell my current PC for around 200. It has over 600 in upgraded components. I will only sell my current PC when I'm almost finsihed building the new one. Any help is appretiated. I need to start looking at cases - tall and square, mobos, CPUs, RAM, video and audio cards, HDs, cooling systems, and power supplies. Let's build an insane computer.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds awesome! I don't really know much about the newest things in computers, but I can't wait to see the end result. Good luck Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say start looking at ASUS motherboards as I've heard good things about them, but never used one personally. I would also recommend staying away from Gigabyte mobos. I have had issues with mine and so have a couple of people who also own them.

With respect to the features you are looking for, the HD display and DX10 compatibility are solely dependent on the graphics card you get. Almost all modern mobos will have a SATA II (3.0 GB/s) connector to support the 10k RPM HD and will support at least 4 GB RAM.

For cases, I like the Antec Sonata II. It is pretty quiet, I love the hard drive cages, and have a great warranty for the included power supply. (I had it die on me, but I returned it and got a replacement no problem.)

If you have any more questions, just ask. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:51 am    Post subject: Basic Build Pricing Estimations Reply with quote

This is very general with minimal resarch. I will improve the pricing estimations as I learn more about the individual components. I did not realize how expensive those Core 2 Extreme processors are. If I can get my hands on a C2E for about half the retail I will get one of these.

MOBO --------- 300
CPU ----------- 300
CASE --------- 100->200
HD ------------ 300->500
DL DVD RW -- 100->150
DL CD RW --- 100
RAM ---------- 500->700
GRAPHICS --- 500->600
SOUND ------- 200->300

2,100 low 2,850 High, before USBs / Ethernet / RAIDs / Card Reader / Cooling / Vista. So overall I would say I'm looking at around $3000 to $3500 max for the build. This is about the ammount of money I usually spend in a half-year give or take. Obviously it's going to take me quite a while to purchase all of the components. I would say about six months and I will have the bulk of the hardware for the build.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a lot of money. Personally, I think you could get an extremely good motherboard for under $300, an 18X DVD+-R with DL support for $30, and RAM for way under $500. Also, I wouldn't go with quad core just yet. We have dual, dual core xeons at work and I don't think I've ever seen more then 2 cores fully loaded down.

Of course this is your build and only you know what you want, so do as you desire.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, like i mentioned the prices are only vauge estimates. I'm not sure but I think the Core 2 extreme is duo-core not quad. The 500 for the RAM is for a total of 5GB, 1GB sticks are around 100, I know this cuz I just got one. I'm looking to get that new 1000Mh RAM so it may be even more expensive. All suggestions are appretiated.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of the Core 2 Extremes on Newegg are quad core except 1, but I think it might be a typo as there is another one listed with the same model number (x6800) that is listed as quad core.

I am curious, how did you arrive at 5 GB for RAM? It just seems like an odd number for memory. Also, I'm assuming you are going to be using Vista or 64bit XP?

Edited for typo.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will look into the Core 2 extremes more. That's a good question, how did I come up with 5GB lol. I guess it would be more typical to say 4GB. I guess the 5GB was like a max.

Yes I was hoping for 64 bit Vista.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found this cool link. It helps you select a motherboard for intel chipsets based upon what you want the board to do. Check it out.

http://mbsg.intel.com/mbsg/

I selected the prefs Gaming / Media Center under "Usage Category:" and Dual channel DDR3 1066/800 under "System Memory:". There are 4 results, the top board is an Asus P5K3 Delux/Wifi-AP. The last three are Gigabyte boards GA-P35T-DQ6, GA-P35T-DS4, GA-P35C-DS3R. Here's pics of how they compare against each other:





I'm lowering the estimation for the motherboard to 300 as I have seen these boards for around 300 in several places. You were right Bronze.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So now that I have an idea of what mobos I will base the build off of it will be easier to create a more accurate price estimation. Too bad they are all ATX form factor, I was hoping on building a square box instead of a tower. Now I'm going to start looking for oddly shapped ATX form cases. Does anyone know of a square style ATX case I could use?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

precisewitem wrote:
Does anyone know of a square style ATX case I could use?


Black Mini Cube ATX Server Computer Case

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a cool case, but I would have to mod it to build a reg PC with it. I'm looking for something that is for a non server PC. Thanks though.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:25 am    Post subject: Processor Stats Comparison Reply with quote

Here's some stats on the supported processors for those boards. I'm thinking I won't go with the extreme yet as they retail for $1,000.00. I can always upgrade to one of these when they are cheaper. This will also reduce the overall cost, it cuts the cost of the processor in half.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

precisewitem wrote:
That's a cool case, but I would have to mod it to build a reg PC with it. I'm looking for something that is for a non server PC. Thanks though.

While it is called a server case, it works with standard pc parts. No modding required.

Then there is the Sunbeam Acrylic UFO Cube Case

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool case, a little too open for my taste but def a cool case.
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